I invite ALL federation developers to hop into on for conversations around the social Web. It's where a few discussions on discussions occur.

I know that we have for this as well and I encourage the devs to use these places in conjunction to this one for conversations for historical and open discussion reasons.

inb4 "eww IRC"

a lot of the development of software in general happens over IRC or e-mail and it's been working amazingly well for decades

@jalcine is there a decent way to preserve context? my problem has always been needing to run an IRC bouncer like ZNC to see conversations that happen when I'm not actively there

@darius but yeah that's been the most open option I can think of - it goes back in history as well

@rick_777 @jalcine freenode hosts 50k channels and 85k users, and is primarily based on supporting free and open source software and other peer directed projects. Running in some form since 93, IRC for software dev is doing pretty well, and you're invited to join us.

@jalcine Agreed about email, but IRC's lack of built-in support for accessing messages missed when offline makes it suck unless everyone is in the same TZ, has reliable power, network, etc.

@mjog Most channels are logged - the history bit was a solved problem. Also IRCv3 patched this bit re: history via capabilities. Just needed clients to implement it.

@jalcine Which is great in theory, but without client support, nobody can use it.

Geary promotes it's mailing list and IRC channel as the main sources of interaction with the project. I see quite often people join the channel, ask a question, get no answer, then leave. They never follow that up with a mailing list post.

I only know this because these days I access the channel via Matrix.

@mjog that sounds less of a failing of IRC and moreso of the client devs, no?

@jalcine Ouch!

As someone living in +11:00, unfortunately I'm sleeping when most of the rest of the world is awake. Dunno what I can do about that, def's don't want to move to America. ;)


And the mailing list gets less random queries than the IRC channel, mostly I assume, because Mailman's UX is a mean in-joke.

So I suspect that IRC+lists are great for people already established with the project and/or familiar with the tools, but everyone else could use an easier means to communicate with libre projects.

@jaywink @cwebber indeed (always open to bridged communications - literally a representative model of the world)

@jalcine cool. I forwarded it.
About the decision of having choosen discourse as a forum software I'm disappointed.

There's a federated social network out there in the wild fediverse that got a forum function. We could have choosen this and by that support the fediverse infrastructure.

@paulfree14 that's understandable. I figure it was a stability over dogfooding thing

@jalcine since it is quite stable, I expect it was due to knowing discourse already and by that not wanting to try something else.
also: discourse is a great software.

@jalcine I had issues getting onto the IRC server.. Is there an IP block or something?

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