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We need a logo for the because when people equate to the entirety of the like how @nextcloud did with that image at the bottom, we have a problem github.com/nextcloud/social

And it's not the fault of Mastodon - it's widely used. It's just the first thing that comes to mind when people seem to think about the .

Which sucks because it's like the USA / America thing.

@jalcine @nextcloud it's too bad the activitypub logo is bad (also AP != fediverse, etc etc)

nextcloud nooo ugh why did you do that

Now that as good as nobody is using StatusNet anymore, and GNU Social has a logo of its own, maybe the good old StatusNet icon with the colorful speech bubbles could stand for the Fediverse.

web.archive.org/web/2012010401…
@dirb @jalcine I am not surprised that somebody would go to Mastodon first. But at least they seem to be accepting noncompatibility with other implementations as bugs.

It will be good when there are narrower test suites available, intended for the Fediverse in practice rather than for ActivityPub. I understand that's what @feneas has or is working on, and that the #LitePub people will also have one.
@dirb @jalcine I am not surprised that somebody would go to Mastodon first. But at least they seem to be accepting noncompatibility with other implementations as bugs.

It will be good when there are narrower test suites available, intended for the Fediverse in practice rather than for ActivityPub. I understand that's what @feneas has or is working on, and that the #LitePub people will also have one.

@jalcine it's kinda like Linux vs Gnu.
if we insist on calling everything the fediverse then we are setting up cultural barriers to adoption.
if we refer to each component and say they feature federation we don't get bogged down in #rms style pedantics.

@Xyc0 @jalcine that's like saying not calling email "gmail" is setting up barriers.

@lain @jalcine i just don't think the term 'fediverse' is going to get us anywhere with normies.
i'd be happy be proven wrong.

@Xyc0 cool. I mean this is just (re-)asserting you're attempting to push a (unproven) idea as fact. The thing is, we haven't had a solid "proven" case because of market hype and herd approaches (see Google to search or Kleenex to face tissues) @lain

@jalcine @lain the example I gave of Linux vs Gnu is as close as I could imagine.
In the early 90's people were referring to anything opensource as Linux, even when Linus was pretty clear about the name referring to his kernel.
He even fought the name Linux.
RMS insisted on calling it Gnu/Linux because of all of the Gnu utilities being ported to the kernel.
I don't know many people refer to distros as Ubuntu Gnu/Linux or some such.

@jalcine @lain please don't think i have a dog in this fight.
I host pleroma on my domain and couldn't imagine having to deal with mastodon.
I've just been using mastodon longer.

@Xyc0 even to the "longer" part - Mastodon was my entry to the Fediverse but with the knowledge of more, it'd be more a choice in complacence than encouraging plurality into the space @lain

@jalcine i read an article that popped up when i was trying to get my pleroma instance to federate that has a brief on some of the early gnu social friction.

medium.com/@Trevatos/gnu-socia

I prob still have my gnu social account somewhere but I never adopted it because all posts were essentially public at the time.

@lain @jalcine IRL told someone about the fediverse after their Instagram was taken down for their Christmas photos.
they thought it was the US federal government and wanted nothing to do with it.

Rochko has consistently talked about the Mastodon network from the first Show HN to this day. His public Mastodon branding and marketing minimizes the role of the full network, even though he acknowledges and appreciates the Fediverse in technical Fediverse-local discourse and in some interviews with better-informed interviewers.

@jalcine
The :fediverse: doesn't look too bad imho (but I'm not a designer).

Also, I don't know if I sound asinine, but maybe we need a mascot too?

I admit that I remembered that this place(s) existed when I saw the little elephant for the second or third time. ^^'

@pollomostro oh the logo looks excellent to me!

and yeah the mascot humanizes (or patronizes?) it a lot so you remember that over a logo

@jalcine
This sounds like a job for @davidrevoy .....can you help us out? We need you:)
@nextcloud

@LPS @davidrevoy @nextcloud my comment is kinda loaded because there IS a logo for the fediverse but they chose not to. They might as well just say that their project talks to Mastodon and not the Fediverse.

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