Fucking pissed at white dudes in free software prioritizing exercising their free speech by showing "look, I can make jokes which affect people not like me" and then being like "free software is a movement for everyone"

Nobody has ever questioned whether *I* belong. But I've tried to bring in plenty of other people who left because they didn't feel welcome.

I believe in free software, I want it to be a movement for everyone. Most of these people would say "I do too".


Do you have a *right* to say whatever you want? Legally it's an important right. But should you? What you *should* do is something else entirely.

You can use that free speech in all sorts of ways. How did you choose to use it?

And are you really, really, actually an "equal opportunity offender"?

If you claim everyone should have thick skin you'd better not be blowing up at Sarah Jeong for making a few jokes about white people and then turn around and say racist or ableist or whatever shit


@cwebber I dig what you are saying, but those you are saying it to are doing it for shits and giggles, having perused /pol/ before, they aren’t gonna open their ears to you, so be your fantastic self and ignore those making obtuse remarks

@Wrongg Well I haven't shared the context, but these aren't even alt-right /pol/ type folks. They're old guard free software folks (many of whom even consider themselves to be on the left in other circumstances) on a private mailing list who can't see beyond their own life experiences, can't understand how their words affect people... can't understand how they're *failing to build the social movement we need*.

@cwebber my mistake, hopefully there can be some change ☺️ the question is, how do we build the social movement we need? How do we escape the socialist libertarian mish mash that has been fallen into? How do we be like frank? Https://youtu.be/uvcouQJj-2I

@nobru I did engage them directly on the mailing list. This was a public vent, but I tried hard to speak convincingly there.

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