Ha, racist apologist white guy is back trying to have a 'nuanced' conversation about how a racist can fight racism but I'm 'misinterpreting' him and making our exchange 'hostile'.

But let's just ignore the fact he's been at this for three days now despite I have repeatedly expressed I have no interest in hearing his non-sense.

LOL, but somehow, magically, I'm the aggressor.

White people just live in delusion, hahahaha...


Racism isn't that complex. The results explain the intentions pretty clearly. The history on this is not esoteric.

What is complex is the myriad of ways white people attempt to downplay and codify racism into something they can either dismiss or say it's 'too hard' to deal with.

Both result in the same thing: the perpetuation of racism.

The prevalence of racism is not hard to explain. White people like racism.

White people tend to obfuscate this basic point b/c they feel implicated by it.

@Are0h mostracist people actually believe racism is pretty bad, and don't want to be labelled racist; their pretty specific, to them, way of not liking other people is rooted in expérience or whatever.
Fortunatly, you don't have to listen to them.

@Are0h 2 thoughts on this, if you don't mind hearing me out:
"Racism isn't that complex. The results explain the intentions pretty clearly. The history on this is not esoteric."

Sometimes I get into arguments with black friends/comrades because I say "conspiracy theories are antisemitic, they blame a small elite (Jewish) group for global problems" and then my friends come back with "BUT WHAT ABOUT TUSKEEGEE?" and other examples of the government literally conspiring against black people 1/?

@Are0h When I say that those aren't conspiracies, what I mean is the point you just made. It doesn't take a secretive cabal to plot against black people. It just takes a deeply, endemically racist system. Whether or not there is a secretive element is immaterial, and doesn't prove the existence of conspiracies. 2/3

@Are0h Point 2: "The prevalence of racism is not hard to explain. White people like racism." I definitely agree with this, with the caveat that "liking" something IS complex. Why racism appeals to the technically diverse group of people who have willingly forgone that diversity in favor of being "white" is complicated.

@MoMartin Like I told the racist apologist dude, the reasons white people choose to obfuscate the issue of racism is for them to figure out because that's where the 'complexity' comes from.

I like how you mentioned the conspiracy theory slant white people often ascribe to racism to resist the reality of its existence, which just feeds back in their need to discredit the reality of its affects.

So yeah as far as why white people are so adherent to racism is a convo, but that's on them.

@Are0h Agreed, yeah, I didn't mean to imply that it's a conversation that Black people have to have at all. Deconstructing whiteness is work internal to White communities. Ending Racism, i.e., the power of white people over non-white people, is work for all of us.

@MoMartin Oh nah, I didn't think you were implying that, I'm just being clear about those intentions and why they are deployed in conversations about racism.

To be honest, I've been thinking a lot about that premise. It's our responsibility to survive racism and we've been innovative in that task, but the issue is that white folks keep reinventing ways to apply it.

I don't think it's on us to end racism b/c if it was up to us, it would have gone a long time ago.

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