So basically the GOP is arguing for more bailouts for various corporations while the Dems are trying to increase basic protections for workers who are bearing the brunt of an unexpected work stoppage.

And under the table the GOP is giving the Gestap... I mean ICE all the medical equipment and services it needs to continue their racist work.

I mean... it's pretty clear what they're doing.

There is a long US tradition of using crisis to make wealthy people wealthier. This is one way people build wealth in the States. Withholding basic necessities for the larger population is an American tradition. There's a reason we don't have national healthcare.

The part that's frustrating is that we see these massive expenditures to prop up failing industries, but barely a trickle for people in need.

Black folks know this more than most. This has been our reality from day one.

Our current situation with containing the spread of disease is a microcosm of the greatest American problem: the refusal to do what is right.

As with most problems in the States, we know what to do and how to fix challenges. As our current political carnival is showing, we just don't do it.

What's happening in the States isn't magic. It's the consequence of decades of flat out refusing to the sensible and reasonable thing for the sake of a handful of rich white people and their tokens.

@Are0h Love it and because people are often bad at communicating these basic facts it just looks like Dems are holding things up to hurt people

@Cyborgneticz Well, I have my issues with Dems, but it's historical fact the country runs better under Democratic leadership.

Not much better, but those margins matter when you live on the fringes.

@Are0h Given how the Dems keep moving rightward, those margins keep getting smaller and smaller. :(


@Are0h also there's been a concerted effort on FB to push this "dems are voting against coronavirus help!" thing

@June Yeah, that's to be expected. The GOP always do that.

They poison policy and then demonize folks when they don't vote for that bullshit.

It works because most white voters don't give a shit about policy.

@Are0h nope. they don't fucking dig At. All.

@Are0h Dems need to go further, tbh. Mandatory dropping of rent payments across the country for the entirety of the crisis with no landlord allowed to request/demand backpay afterwards.

Increased stipend, both in amount and length too.

A lot of people are still gonna end up starving or homeless otherwise.

But yeah, it's clear who's fascist and who's protofascist.

Here's hoping the protofascists shed their protofascism and start demanding more. Cuz if not, the people will.

@KitsuneAlicia Well, anything short of medicare for all isn't going far enough if we wan to keep it real, so no bill they put forth is gonna be enough.

The key is just getting help to the people that need it and those that are on the front lines. We shouldn't have doctors and nurses begging for basic shit and we shouldn't be struggling with capacity when we have the means to increase it fairy quickly.

We're not even doing the basics right now and that's a big part of the problem.

@Are0h Right. Unfortunately, as others have said, what constitues "basics" is increasingly less and less as Democrats work to appease the Gestapo-lovers more and more instead of the rest of us.

I guess that's my issue. They're doing okay, but they need to do more. If they have to pass this now and then double the demands next week, then fine. But if they don't pass anything, they need to double the demands every week until they achieve a working solution.

@KitsuneAlicia But that's always been the case in the States. None of this is new.

I think there is an expectation that the Dems will somehow magically do what is required and they've never been about that.

Folks get caught up on not getting every little thing, while marginalized folks get nothing because of the constant squabbling.

Yes, they need to do more, but this has always been the case.

Right now the focus needs to be on helping people survive and not exploiting crisis.

@Are0h Right. Sorry. Dems definitely should do this for the immediate short-term this week. (And it most definitely has to be done this week. It can't wait.)

We were just thinking in the coming weeks and months after and how we know they're gonna mess it up and how the people will and already are stepping up to take their place.

@KitsuneAlicia Yeah, I feel you. Folks have always been standing in the gap for a long time, usually without getting what they need to make it work.

I think the premise a lot of progressive folks work from is that eventually we will get what we want if we do whatever enough. Protesting, marching, etc etc.

And while some of this is true, that work usually falls on the most disadvantaged people to to the bulk of it.

That's the part that needs to change.

@Are0h yeah this is dead on. we almost always know what to do to fix what comes up, and "politics" is about trying to square that with what a bunch of rich white dudes want

@walruslifestyle This is all 'politics' really is. Negotiating with the worst people in our government who have perfected the talent of telling white people what they want to hear so they can remain in power, but doing nothing to actually help people.

The Southern Strategy has been by far the most successful political strategy in the US because it taps into a core belief of white people: that their whiteness will guarantee success if the protect.

Fuck the decades of history that say otherwise

@Are0h im not saying the EU is perfect (far from it *😒 Macron*)

but perhaps the easiest way to fix US politics would be to not just get rid of the current president, but of the office in general, which hopefully clamps down on the centralisation of power

anyway, i just got sidetracked in my head in the middle of writing this, because I'm once again thinking about what an absolute shithead Macron is

@meena Yeah, we're not too far apart on that, but what do marginalized people do in the meantime? What can we do so they don't pay the price for that kind of regime change?

I think a lot of people don't take into account the ramifications of radical action on the ground.

Which is why addressing the basic necessities of people is just a revolutionary actin in and of itself because that's usually not at the center of any of these types of discussion.

@Are0h yeah, i feel like what would happen is that the more privileged of the marginalized would move to the states which have better support systems.

@Are0h The ICE supplies are going to the people that actually do the raids as well. It's absolutely unacceptable. Monstrous. Give money to people who need it for god's sake.

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