Ha, I don't know man.
I just think it's funny how upset white people get because I won't go back and forth with them on some non-sense.
White people get all ragey at minor slights that really doesn't affect them, but completely ignore or pretend to ignore incidents that actually harm people.
I laugh at it because it's just a performance. They really don't care, but they LOVE to perform OUTRAGE.
Ha, but only about the stuff that really doesn't matter.
Funny how that works.
There is fundamental disconnect between what troubles white folks on the fedi and those that aren't.
For example, I fine with people who don't want to listen to me. That's their prerogative.
But I find so many white folks become ENRAGED when I refuse to discuss their subjectivity and feelings on topics that affect POCs, largely because they are just looking for ways to make themselves feel better.
On the other side, we just want spaces free from harassment and abuse.
That's pretty much it
The only moments I see when white people get activated is when it comes to defending bigots and their 'right' to be hateful pieces of shit or when they *feel* their random, unleavened opinions about a topic they know nothing about is rejected.
When it comes to those topics, you see all kind action and mobilization of white folks, which mimics the general posture of White America.
But when it comes to stuff that really matters, like safety and community, the remain quiet.
There is no esoteric and metaphysical answer that we're missing that will help reduce abuse and harassment on the web.
Ha, we just don't do it because people like being assholes to each other and in the bigoted societies we exist in, that behavior is rewarded more often than now.
I think people who don't want to solve the issue want to make it seem like the solution is hard to understand and implement, b/c in reality it isn't.
It's all just performance to keep being shitty people.
So, generally, that's why I'm entertained by the umbrage white people put on full display when I decline to engage with their superficial and vacuous 'points'.
Because if you really wanted to be involved in the conversation in an authentic way, you would do the work to understand it, rather than badger people to take responsibility for your education.
Ha, throwing a temper tantrum b/c I recognize this performance and dismiss it just shows they weren't about shit anyway.
@Are0h Reminds me of that twitter town hall where an employee asked why they ban "Muslim extremist" posts but don't ban white supremacist ones. Someone at twitter answered that too many Republican politicians would be caught in the filter and that "society wouldn't accept" that outcome.
And I was like...every WoC I know would heavily prefer that twitter ban whitesup speech. We know how to moderate for safety, platforms are just choosing to hurt a part of society in order to cater to whitesups.
@ash That's exactly what it is, which is why I always call bullshit on mainstream proclamations about how they are trying.
They're not. Not even close.
They are just another social mechanism that protects the insanity of white people for no particular reason other than for the sake of their own bigotry.
Why all of this abuse and violence keeps happening isn't magic. They enable it, then want us to pretend they don't have anything to do with it.
@Are0h 💯 You're really good at seeing through gaslighting and bringing clarity to a situation. You're a gift Ro.
@ash Just trying to do my part, ma’am.
@Are0h Yup. The solution is easy: Actively kick 'em the fuck out (or preferably, don't let 'em in in the first place). Doing so does not violate anyone's rights, so any excuses are purely out of indifference and just not giving a shit about the ones hurt by the inaction.
@KitsuneAlicia Yup. That's all it is.
Folks just don't want to do it. And bigots know this and exploit it time and time again.
@Are0h My favorite is the "But who decides who's bigoted and who's not? We need to means test this!" excuse.
Because they need to be absolutely sure the pain marginalized groups is expressing is genuine and we're not somehow faking it. 🤦♀️
That's like...a big fear of many white people as well. I know because when I was young, I felt it. I knew I hated inequality, racism, sexism, etc.--but I didn't understand them half as well as I thought I did, so some things that got called out as racism didn't _seem_ racist to me, and that made me nervous I'd be "falsely accused" or some nonsense.
Furthermore, don't expect a given person to explain why such behavior is bigoted, either. This stuff happens far too often, and so marginalized groups can't be educating people on the same topic 10 times a day. We'd have no time left for ourselves then, so doing your own research is important here.
In my own experiences, I've been called a sexist, homophobe, etc, but it doesn't really bother me b/c I know what I am will reveal it self over time and folks will see it eventually.
In that context it's interesting how white people are more worried about the label of racist moreso than the actual effects of racism itself.
Which has always lead me to believe it's just performative anyway
@Are0h "[...] want to solve the issue want to make it seem like the solution is hard to understand and implement [...]"
Definitely. That's where the whole "slippery slope" arguing starts coming in. "Who gets to decide what's bigotry and what's harmful?"
It's no where near as hard as they make it sound, but they'll use any excuse to do nothing.
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