“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

White Americans keep telling us they don't give a shit about a healthy nation. They just want to hurt people they don't like. That has been most prominent motivation for the white vote since the country was founded.

vox.com/policy-and-politics/20

There's another piece linked in the article that talks about how white cruelty is the point of their political efforts. Read this shit:

"The president’s ability to execute that cruelty through word and deed makes them euphoric. It makes them feel good, it makes them feel proud, it makes them feel happy, it makes them feel united. And as long as he makes them feel that way, they will let him get away with anything, no matter what it costs them."

theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/

I know people call my thoughts on white American culture 'controversial', but it just is what it is.

White people are not motivated by fairness, healthy communities and cooperation. They just don't care. Not even about themselves.

Asking us who do to negotiate with this culture to find 'common ground' is like asking a drowning person to be patient and hope water stops killing them.

White Americans would rather die than cooperate. Attempting to 'negotiate' w/ insanity is pure fucking nonsense

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And I don't want to hear any self serving, weak ass whining about how 'complex' racism is in America.

If we're talking about why America keeps going from crisis to crisis and we can't agree the main factor is generational white resistance to morality, civility, reason and reality itself, then keep your bullshit to yourself.

Progress in America is so hard because white people _hate_ progress and have always worked against it.

White people aren't part of the problem. They _are_ the problem.

@Are0h And the thing is, the rest of the world sees it. I've been complaining about America's cruelty and arrogance since I was 13-14, and I can honestly say I've never met anyone, in any country I've been to, who had anything positive to say about the country and its people. And (white) Americans just don't seem to believe me if I tell them that.

It took me a few extra years to realize that _white_ Americans were the problem, specifically, but it's obvious in retrospect.

@Are0h I guess your options here are 'controversial', but I don't think they're wrong at all. There's something really strange about the way they think, their lack of empaphy, etc. There are definite cases where, confronted with the logic of what they're suggesting, people have admitted to me that they'd rather die and take others down with them than concede; or they'll say something like, "It may be pointless and harmful to others, but at least I'll go down fighting."

@Are0h I can't wrap my head around it...

But hey, I'm from the UK, and white folk from there are only a few steps behind this sort of ridiculousness (or are they the same now? I haven't been to the UK in 16 years and it definitely sounds like it's getting worse, so who knows?), so maybe I'm the weird one for even _trying_ not to be terrible.

@Are0h Gotta love those sweeping generalizations.
As though "white people" are some kind of monolith.
In every struggle for racial justice there have been "white" people of conscience on the front lines, being called "race traitors" and worse. Your lovely polemic won't erase that history and is hugely offensive.
Those "white people" in those articles don't fucking speak for me or for anyone I agree with or respect.

@kmckaig In the context of the white American political landscape, yes they do. They always have.

If it makes you feel better to consider yourself different of whatever they fuck you want to believe, do you.

But you're sitting here getting upset at me for speaking about the reality of white political dogma for centuries rather than the reality itself. Just like any other common racist.

It's funny how when it comes down to it even white ha, 'progressives' care more about self than reality.

@kmckaig
Those people arent considered "white" thus being called race traitors. The white concept of whiteness is deeply seeded in racism and colonialism. Im not going to put words in his mouth but im guessing hes talking about your shitty dad that says "is it me or is it dark in here" in a crackerbarrel when he sees a PoC eating but brags they voted for Obama.
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@frickhaditcoming @kmckaig @Are0h

I'm with Are0h here. I've never met you, but a suggestion? Before you say more of the same, maybe consider that leading with the exact sort of "white lives matter" framing that cop-lovers and bootlickers do, just in reference to the left, probably wasn't the best place to try to start a conversation with someone you've never met -- and no, i'm not calling you a bootlicker or cop-lover, fellow worker

@kmckaig @Are0h what's with all of the communist symbols, obvious fash?

@lyliawisteria @kmckaig hey, could you knock that off? you've done it twice now to people who are showing no signs of being a fascist. bad right-wing parroting racist take (despite apparent intentions) in this case, yes, fascist, no. the other time, you were just flatly wrong.

you need to sort this shit out

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@lyliawisteria @kmckaig @frickhaditcoming not an invite for you to go off on me or other people, btw. we agreed to block each other last time, but you apparently have an alt and/or sock puppet

@shoutcacophony @lyliawisteria @frickhaditcoming How exactly am I "baiting" anyone? I was responding to a very specific post by someone I have subsequently blocked. I don't have a sock puppet but I did change instances a while back. What gives?

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